And, ah, the introduction to safety was interesting.

I've been working on Ah, my first degree program, which was waste management. It's interesting design, and, ah, eventually that reactor was shut down and I went into safety. And when I get out, I went to work for Argonne National Laboratories, a research reactor operator at a fast sodium reactor which is similar to what Bill Gates is building in China Right now. Okay, Well, um, I spent most of my our 19 eighties in the United States Navy nuclear program, and ah, with that, I, of course, was introduced with the, uh, the formality and regular that comes with running and nuclear propulsion system on a aircraft carrier and training folks for the last three years that I was in. What we can start from, How did how did you get started with the whole with a whole area of hop. Please take a moment to welcome to the show with me, Ronald Ferris. Expert in high reliability, operation principles and practices on effective communicator who has the ability to work with all levels of the organization to resolve identified issues with creative solutions over 38 years of experience in human performance, nuclear operations, maintenance, industrial safety and human factors. Ronald says that he's a dynamic problem solver who utilizes human performance skills and knowledge to solve complex problems. He is a business partner of Hope Consulting. Today I have a conversation with Ronald Ferris. So let's just take a moment, sit back and relax and take a listen to what we have to offer to you today. I know in these times of uncertainty, we're not 100% sure what to do next. I hope things are going extremely well in your neck of the woods. I am glad that you have decided to make a return once again to take you Listen to the show here. This show is brought to you by safety Safety FM Dot Live with Lohan will go to the GL in June.

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